The RNG of farming for Vial of The Sands

In the final days of Legion is the perfect time to spend some time obtaining rare recipes in the game for gold making purposes. Most of you will likely have conquered the raids or PvP objectives and you are more or less ready for the next expansion. One of the most profitable recipes in the game is the Vial of the Sands. Sadly it is locked behind an incredibly RNG-y grind. Today we will try to figure out how long we can expect the grind to be.

The farm

The recipe is found through archeology. Specifically through solving the tol’vir common artifact Canopic Jar. The chance of a jar containing the recipe is about 10% for characters with alchemy, and the chance of getting a canopic jar when starting a new artifact is around 12 %.

The drop rate from Canopic Jars was found through crowdsourced statistics in this wowhead thread. The chance of getting a canopic jar was posted in a comment on the vial of the sands recipe page here.

How long does this take?

The difference in time is quite staggering if you read through the comments on wowhead. I got mine in 3 jars, while fellow goblin and twitch streamer Shinn just got his on his 27th jar. So I decided to do some analysis to figure out how it looks.

Monte Carlo simulation

I could probably have solved this analytically if I wanted to go into the math of the problem. I choose to make a simple Monte Carlo simulation model instead as it is in many ways easier to understand. It will also make it much easier to analyze the potential outcomes in terms of number of solves and number of jars you need to complete.

I wrote a simple python script that generates random numbers. Based on the percentages below we first determine if the next solve is a jar. If it is we draw another random number with a 10% chance of being the recipe at which point the loop quits and the number of jars and total number of solves are both recorded. I ran this 100 000 times to get a stable result.


The table below summarizes some of the main stats from the simulation. The mean number of jars is 10, which is the exact expected value. Perhaps the most notable result is the massive increase from the 90th percentile to the maximum value. The worst case here is REALLY bad. We can see that Shinn’s result of 27 jars has less than 10% chance of happening.

Below you can see the number of solves and number of jars plotted versus the percentiles. We see that the majority of players will get it done with less than 20 jars and less than about 200 total solves.


How does this translate into time?

This comment on wowhead indicates that you can get about 3-5 Tol’vir artifacts per hour doing the mantid method I outlined in my post on Vial of the Sands. With this range we get the expected time below. The Hours low column is based on 3 Tol’virs per hour and the high column indicates 5 Tol’vir artifacts per hour.

Overall I think this proves that the grind is not too prohibitive. The worst case is truly bad however with time requirements touching 300 hours. If you spent an hour per day doing this you would expect to get it at the end of the month. 90% will manage it in two months on a one hour per day schedule.

Happy digging!

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7 thoughts on “The RNG of farming for Vial of The Sands

  1. After your post about the Vial I decided to get the recipe. I was almost (read: not at all, really) disappointed when I got the recipe in my first Canopic Jar after what I think was 7 or 8 solves. Since then I have been selling one per day, thank you for posting about it which made me get the thumb out of my ass and go get the recipe!

    1. Congratulations on your 1 jar recipe! I got mine on 3. I’ve started work on getting it on a second realm. I think I’ve opened 3 so far with no luck. The mount sells really well.

  2. can also adds that ive done 70-80 solves, stopped counting, without getting a Jar 🙂 doing it the Mantid way

  3. 9th jar so far and tonight was my fourth or fifth night of farming? Starting to blur together. I hope 10 is my lucky number but this post gives me hope regardless.

  4. I’ve opened over 40 jars and still no luck. I have 75 in Cata Alchemy, just making sure i’m just unlucky and not missing something.

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